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нахрена вообще в таком обществе быть "правильным" мужчиной? Сплошные минусы и никаких плюсов.

Логично, что мужчины всё чаще выбирают быть "неправильным". И дальше уже от человека зависит, в какой именно асоциальной форме это выразится — безопасной для общества пассивной (ноющий инцел-хиккан) или небезопасной активной.
В комментах навели на вот такой текст:
https://barsoom.substack.com/p/the-simp-rapist-complex

Очень крутой, но очень мрачный. Советую прочесть целиком, в т.ч. и тем кто не силён в английском — современные автопереводчики работают достаточно хорошо.

Выпишу лишь один фрагмент — хотя стоило бы выписать весь текст:

When men try to break out of the role of the simp that a lifetime of feminist programming has inculcated in them, there is an almost unavoidable tendency to overcompensate. Being nice to women at all, in even the smallest fashion, is simping. Giving them anything is simping. They move to the opposite pole, becoming hard core misogynists, which they come to believe is the only way to get laid because, after all, it works. The rapist and the whore both enjoy sex, at a purely physical level, but they both tend to hate the opposite sex.

Women now commonly taunt their online critics as incels (despite many of those critics being married family men, but this doesn’t matter: it really just means ‘I would never have sex with you’, which is the greatest insult a woman can think of), but the truth is that the most misogynistic men are often precisely the ones with the most sexual experience.

In order to succeed sexually, they had to cast aside their simp programming, and embrace their inner rapist, something they had been told their entire lives was evil. Then, to their horror, they found that women actually love it ... that not only do women enjoy, on some level, being treated as an object, but that they also lie about what they like. It’s hard to come back from that, and many of these men end up becoming exhausted and sickened with the whole thing and adopting monk-like volcel lifestyles. Witness Roosh pulling his popular pickup guides off of the Internet, converting to Orthodox Christianity, and sequestering himself away in a monastery or whatever it is he’s doing now.

The healthy response to this dynamic is to transcend it – to integrate the two polarities of protector/provider and predator. In the absence of a social environment that deliberately cultivates this balance, this is much more easily said than it is done, and therefore in practice very few men succeed. The sexual behaviour of modern women puts an exponent on the difficulty of this task, because it acts to push men away from a healthy balance.

Not only does a man have to overcome his programming without overcompensating, but he must also find a woman who has not been driven insane herself, who is not also at war with her own romantic impulses, who won’t wildly oscillate between treating him like a vile incel simp and a brutish animal rapist every time he does something nice for her or asserts himself.


Я даже слов подобрать не могу, насколько это в точку. ППКС, Core (даже не БАЗА) и вот это всё — недостаточно сильно звучит.

Может быть, позже пооппонирую — в том смысле, как (по идее) оппонирование на защите диссертации, с целью развить мысль, а не завалить.

Ну и напоминаю, что мы пока живём в далеко не столь мрачной реальности (да и в Северной Америке описываемая автором реальность ещё не до конца наступила). Но движемся именно туда.



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В комментах навели на вот такой текст:
https://barsoom.substack.com/p/the-simp-rapist-complex

Очень крутой, но очень мрачный. Советую прочесть целиком, в т.ч. и тем кто не силён в английском — современные автопереводчики работают достаточно хорошо.

Выпишу лишь один фрагмент — хотя стоило бы выписать весь текст:

When men try to break out of the role of the simp that a lifetime of feminist programming has inculcated in them, there is an almost unavoidable tendency to overcompensate. Being nice to women at all, in even the smallest fashion, is simping. Giving them anything is simping. They move to the opposite pole, becoming hard core misogynists, which they come to believe is the only way to get laid because, after all, it works. The rapist and the whore both enjoy sex, at a purely physical level, but they both tend to hate the opposite sex.

Women now commonly taunt their online critics as incels (despite many of those critics being married family men, but this doesn’t matter: it really just means ‘I would never have sex with you’, which is the greatest insult a woman can think of), but the truth is that the most misogynistic men are often precisely the ones with the most sexual experience.

In order to succeed sexually, they had to cast aside their simp programming, and embrace their inner rapist, something they had been told their entire lives was evil. Then, to their horror, they found that women actually love it ... that not only do women enjoy, on some level, being treated as an object, but that they also lie about what they like. It’s hard to come back from that, and many of these men end up becoming exhausted and sickened with the whole thing and adopting monk-like volcel lifestyles. Witness Roosh pulling his popular pickup guides off of the Internet, converting to Orthodox Christianity, and sequestering himself away in a monastery or whatever it is he’s doing now.

The healthy response to this dynamic is to transcend it – to integrate the two polarities of protector/provider and predator. In the absence of a social environment that deliberately cultivates this balance, this is much more easily said than it is done, and therefore in practice very few men succeed. The sexual behaviour of modern women puts an exponent on the difficulty of this task, because it acts to push men away from a healthy balance.

Not only does a man have to overcome his programming without overcompensating, but he must also find a woman who has not been driven insane herself, who is not also at war with her own romantic impulses, who won’t wildly oscillate between treating him like a vile incel simp and a brutish animal rapist every time he does something nice for her or asserts himself.


Я даже слов подобрать не могу, насколько это в точку. ППКС, Core (даже не БАЗА) и вот это всё — недостаточно сильно звучит.

Может быть, позже пооппонирую — в том смысле, как (по идее) оппонирование на защите диссертации, с целью развить мысль, а не завалить.

Ну и напоминаю, что мы пока живём в далеко не столь мрачной реальности (да и в Северной Америке описываемая автором реальность ещё не до конца наступила). Но движемся именно туда.

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