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Hello all. I know I am anonymous but I sent a message a while ago about my Mother's stomach problems. She went to Urgent Care today and they are running tests on her. There is a possibility that she might have cancer. Please pray for my Mom that her condition is not life threatening at the least and something else manageable entirely. I pray that God, by his grace and mercy, send her angels to comfort and assist her in this time of crisis. I will sacrifice any future marriage prospects for celibacy and eternal service to God. Thank you.
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The comments have been blowing my mind these past few days..
In Orthodoxy... One Bishop says X... another Bishop Says Y (Both claims often contradict each other ) and the Morality of an Action is Now reduced to mere Subjective Bishop Opinions.. ...

Since there exists no Chief Shepherd in eastern Orthodoxy... therefore Eastern Orthodoxy is eventually bound to divide and err .

This Problem which exists in Eastern Orthodoxy does not exist in Catholicism because We have a Living Magesterium and a Bishop who Guide us .

We saw this when in Alexandria Women Deacons were "Ordained" with full Deacon powers. (This is Heretical because women cannot be Ordained with Holy Orders since The DEACONS are a Minor Ordination )

And In Greece , Bulgaria and even Serbia Where animals are Sacrificed as part of Kourbania or Dusni Brav . This is clearly something Eastern Orthodoxy Inherited and imbibed from ISLAM ๐Ÿคฎ. The Ecumenial Council of Ephesus Anathematizes this already and The Latin Church and Papacy has condemned this.

And more serious issues like Contraception being permitted (See the image above ๐Ÿ‘†.... this is a prime Example of how Orthodoxy teaches Evils of Contraception. They allow Contraception which is Intrinsically evil . (And orthodoxy is divided on this because they have no Supreme Pontiff)
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Shown Below you can see Evidence for Intecessory prayers to the Saints... and that also applies to Our Blessed Mother .

Mk 12:26-27
Mk 9:4
Lk 23:43
Rev 6:9-11
Heb 12:1
Lk 16:19-30
Rev 20:4
Wis 3:1-6
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WHY THE CATHOLIC POSITION IS CORRECT โค๏ธ and why the EASTERN ORTHODOX are wrong

*What the Catholic Church Actually Teaches:*

1). *God's essence is not *comprehensible** But it is *knowable analogically and TRULY.*

> *St. Thomas Aquinas (ST I, q. 12, a.1):*

> "We cannot know what God is, but only what He is not; and how other beings stand in relation to Him."

YET in a.12, he also affirms:

> "By grace, we do know God Himself, though not perfectly."

So:

- *We don't comprehend* God (that's total grasp).

- *But we can know* real truths about Him-even aspects of His essence (e.g., that He is Being Itself, Truth Itself, Goodness Itself).

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2). *We know God's essence by participation* Sanctifying grace gives us a *created participation in the *divine nature* (2 Peter 1:4). That includes the *intellective vision* of God in heaven (*beatific vision*) and *true supernatural knowledge* of God now.

> *Denzinger 1000 (Council of Vienne):*

> "The soul truly sees the divine essence."

(Though not in this life, except through extraordinary mystical grace.)


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3). *The Catechism affirms both mystery and real knowledge*

> *CCC 43:*

> "Even when He reveals Himself, God remains a mystery beyond words: 'If you understood Him, it would not be God."

But also:

> *CCC 36:*

> "God... can be known with certainty by the natural light of human reason."

> *CCC 299:*

> "God created everything according to His wisdom. Hence creation reflects His truth and goodness... and is destined for His glory."

These are statements about *God's essence* being *partially knowable**, since we know that God *is Wisdom, Truth, Goodness, etc.


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โ—ใ€‹So what's the issue with Palamite theology? ๐Ÿ‘‡

Eastern Orthodoxy (esp. via *Gregory Palamas) asserts a real distinction* between: God's *essence* (utterly unknowable) - God's *energies* (uncreated but knowable)

Catholicism agrees with the *mystery, but rejects a real metaphysical distinction* within God-since that would violate divine simplicity.

Instead, Catholic theology sees these as *virtual* or *rational distinctions* based on how creatures *experience God, not divisions *in God Himself. The Catholic Church teaches that while we cannot fully comprehend God's essence, we do know real truths about it-especially that He is *Being itself*, *Goodness itself*, *Wisdom itself*. These aren't created intermediaries or mere effects-they are who God is, and we can know this truly, albeit imperfectly. To say otherwise is to make God utterly unknowable, which collapses into agnosticism or apophatic despair**-which the Fathers *never taught*.

NOW here's a *clear, forceful contrast* between the *Catholic* and *Eastern Orthodox* positions regarding God's Essence, what we can know about Him, and the implications for theology and spirituality:

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*Catholic Teaching: We Can Truly Know God's Essence, Though Not Comprehensively*

The Catholic Church holds to *divine simplicity**:
God is not composed of parts, energies, or attributes added onto an essence-**He is* His essence (e.g., *Deus est Ipsum Esse Subsistens*, "God is Being Itself").


*Key Points:*

โ˜…). *God's essence is real and knowable-though never fully comprehensible.*

- We can know that God is and what He is*, by **analogy* and *grace* (not univocally, and not exhaustively).

- By grace (especially in the *beatific vision), the soul is elevated* to see God's *essence directly* (cf. *ST I, q.12*).

โ˜…2). *Revealed names of God (Wisdom, Love, Truth, Justice)* reflect His essence, not just operations or effects.

โ˜…3). *Grace is a real created participation in the divine nature* (2 Peter 1:4), giving us true knowledge of God, even now.

โ˜…4). *The beatific vision* is the direct vision of God's essence, as defined at:

- *Council of Florence (Denz. 693)*

- *Benedict XII, Benedictus Deus (1336):*

> "They see the divine essence with an intuitive and face-to-face vision, without the mediation of any creature..."

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God is a *knowable mystery. We will never exhaust* His essence-but we will *truly behold and know it* in heaven. Even in this life, we know Him really, though imperfectly


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*Orthodox (Palamite) Theology:
God's Essence Is Absolutely Unknowable-Now and Forever*

Following *St. Gregory Palamas* (14th c.), Eastern Orthodoxy developed a *real distinction* between:

- God's *essence* (*ousia*) utterly and eternally *unknowable*

- God's *energies* (*energeiai*) - *uncreated operations* by which God manifests Himself to creation


### โ€ผ๏ธ Key Points: ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿ‘‡

โ˜…1). *No one-NOT EVEN IN HEAVEN-can ever know or see God's Essence.*

โ˜…2). All interaction with God is through His energies, not His essence.

โ˜…3). Deification (*theosis*) is union with the *uncreated energies, but not with the essence* of God.

โ˜…4). This is used to preserve God's *transcendence and unknowability, but it risks positing metaphysical division* within God.

โ˜…โ˜…RESULT โ€ผ๏ธ:
God remains forever hidden in His essence, even for the saints in glory. The beatific vision, as understood in Catholicism, is denied. Saints experience the light of Tabor, not the essence of God.


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