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what Ibnifazlan says about Turks
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Here are several notable things that the 10th-century Arab traveller and envoy Ahmad ibn Fadlan says about Turkic peoples (especially the Oghuz Turks/Ghuzz) during his journey. I’ll provide direct quotations (as best as the translations allow) and then a discussion of what those remarks suggest, along with caveats.

📜 Selected Quotations

Here are some direct or near-direct quotations (in translation) attributed to Ibn Fadlan regarding the Turks:

“They live in poverty, like wandering asses. They do not worship God, nor do they have recourse to reason.”
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Thus he describes the Ghuzz Turks as nomadic, poor, lacking religion (from his viewpoint) and “like donkeys.”

“No Muslim can cross their country without having made friends with one of them … to whom he brings gifts from Islam.”
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Here he praises a particular custom of hospitality among them: if a Muslim comes through their land and befriends one of them, that Turk will host him and accept the gifts of Islam.

“All of the Turks pluck out their beards except for the moustache… a man to see him from a distance, he would have no doubt that he was a billy-goat.”
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Ibn Fadlan remarks on a grooming custom he found bizarre: that the Turkic men remove their beards (except moustache), so that they looked goat-like in his eyes.

Regarding women: “A woman who bared her private parts … husband … said ‘he protects them and allows no one near’.”
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In his account of the Ghuzz Turks he describes a scene which to him was shocking: a woman exposing herself and scratching, and the husband’s proud comment that “I protect them” (i.e., their brash behaviour).

On governance: “They have lords and a king, but their strategy is based on consultation among themselves … the most wretched of them can go back and break the agreement.”
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He describes their political system: a king or leader plus subordinate chieftains, and some form of collective consultation, but with weak enforcement.

On cleanliness/hygiene: He repeatedly remarks on their “filth and immodesty” — e.g., they do not ritually wash, women don’t fully cover, bathing customs different.
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what Ibnifazlan says about Turks
ChatGPT said:

Here are several notable things that the 10th-century Arab traveller and envoy Ahmad ibn Fadlan says about Turkic peoples (especially the Oghuz Turks/Ghuzz) during his journey. I’ll provide direct quotations (as best as the translations allow) and then a discussion of what those remarks suggest, along with caveats.

📜 Selected Quotations

Here are some direct or near-direct quotations (in translation) attributed to Ibn Fadlan regarding the Turks:

“They live in poverty, like wandering asses. They do not worship God, nor do they have recourse to reason.”
blogs.dickinson.edu
+2
blogs.dickinson.edu
+2

Thus he describes the Ghuzz Turks as nomadic, poor, lacking religion (from his viewpoint) and “like donkeys.”

“No Muslim can cross their country without having made friends with one of them … to whom he brings gifts from Islam.”
blogs.dickinson.edu
+1

Here he praises a particular custom of hospitality among them: if a Muslim comes through their land and befriends one of them, that Turk will host him and accept the gifts of Islam.

“All of the Turks pluck out their beards except for the moustache… a man to see him from a distance, he would have no doubt that he was a billy-goat.”
Vilnius University Press
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Ibn Fadlan remarks on a grooming custom he found bizarre: that the Turkic men remove their beards (except moustache), so that they looked goat-like in his eyes.

Regarding women: “A woman who bared her private parts … husband … said ‘he protects them and allows no one near’.”
blogs.dickinson.edu
+1

In his account of the Ghuzz Turks he describes a scene which to him was shocking: a woman exposing herself and scratching, and the husband’s proud comment that “I protect them” (i.e., their brash behaviour).

On governance: “They have lords and a king, but their strategy is based on consultation among themselves … the most wretched of them can go back and break the agreement.”
blogs.dickinson.edu

He describes their political system: a king or leader plus subordinate chieftains, and some form of collective consultation, but with weak enforcement.

On cleanliness/hygiene: He repeatedly remarks on their “filth and immodesty” — e.g., they do not ritually wash, women don’t fully cover, bathing customs different.
blogs.dickinson.edu
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