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THE ISLAMIC DILEMMA ARGUMENT (DEBUNKING ISLAM)

β€’ β€œSay, β€˜We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and what was given to Moses and Jesus.’” (Surah 2:136)
REGARDING THE ABOVE QURANIC VERSE πŸ‘†
Firstly Muslims say we beleive in allah and what was revealed to us. ... ( what is revealed to you... means to follow the Quran) so the quran tells you to beleive what is revealed to you

NOTE : The QURAN As Quoted above in Surah 2:136 Says WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION..... SO WHAT IS GIVEN TO US AND GIVEN TO THEM (Abraham ,Moses and Jesus) IS BOTH PRESERVED.....

Meaning the Muslim View that the Quran had to be preserved also has to have the Preservation that the books of Abraham, Jesus and Moses are true and preserved as well.. Surah 21:48 of the Quran explicitly states that Moses Got the Zikr (ذِكْر) ..... Well Moses Getting the Zikr (ذِكْر) isn't actually The quran.... But the Torah (Old testament) ....

AND in Surah 21:105 of the Quran "
And We have already written in the Psalms after the Reminder (Zikr(ذِكْر)) that 'the land shall be inherited by My righteous servants.'" (Surah 21:105)
NOTICE how the quran admits that the book of Psalms of the Old testament were written After the Zikr(ذِكْر) . SO LOGICALLY FOLLOWING .... THIS ZIKR(ذِكْر) CANNOT BE THE QURAN .

In fact the Quran In Surah 21:48 directly states that Moses Got the Zikr(ذِكْر)
"And We had already given Moses and Aaron the criterion, and a light and a Reminder (Zikr) for the righteous." Surah 21:48


And Surah 21:7 Literally says Muhammad TO verify his revelations by asking the Jews and Christians πŸ˜‚
"And We sent not before you [Muhammad], except men to whom We revealed. So ask the People of the Reminder (Zikr(ذِكْر)) if you do not know."


SO, the Old Testament and New Testament is PRESERVED. ... and Proven True since according to the quran (See belowπŸ‘‡)

now go to Chapter 2 verse 285...
The Messenger ΛΉfirmlyΛΊ believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord, and so do the believers. They ΛΉallΛΊ believe in Allah, His angels, *His Books*, and His messengers. ΛΉThey proclaim,ΛΊ β€œWe make no distinction between any of His messengers.” And they say, β€œWe hear and obey. ΛΉWe seekΛΊ Your forgiveness, our Lord! And to You ΛΉaloneΛΊ is the final return.
Notice... They Beleive in Allah's BOOKS.. books is plural😁 . And Quran Chapter 2 Verse 285 says that WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION ....... BETWEEN ANY OF HIS MESSENGERS ..... (when you Muslims tell me that the books of Abraham , Moses and Jesus are Corrupt then you are making a distinction Which ultimately proves your quran False!)

BUT The quran says that true beleivers Beleive in those Books of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and lastly Muhammad For Muslims.

The Quran explicitly affirms that the Torah (Old Testament) and the Injil (Gospel/New Testament) are revelations from God:

β€’ β€œIndeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light.” (Surah 5:44)

β€’ β€œAnd We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah. And We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light.” (Surah 5:46)

AND Surah 10:94
"If you [Muhammad] doubt what We have revealed to you, then ask those who've been reading the Book before you." (Surah 10:94)

BASICALLY Muhammad relies on the Jews and Christian's Books to Prove his False Religion......

Surah 5:48: "And We have sent down to you the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Muhaymin (superce and witness) over it (old Scriptures)."
This verse states that the Quran confirms the previous scriptures and is a witness over them. This also means that the Quran guarantees the preservation of the previous scriptures. THEREFORE THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT IS TRUE... BIBLE IS TRUE .
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THE ISLAMIC DILEMMA ARGUMENT (DEBUNKING ISLAM)

β€’ β€œSay, β€˜We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and what was given to Moses and Jesus.’” (Surah 2:136)
REGARDING THE ABOVE QURANIC VERSE πŸ‘†
Firstly Muslims say we beleive in allah and what was revealed to us. ... ( what is revealed to you... means to follow the Quran) so the quran tells you to beleive what is revealed to you

NOTE : The QURAN As Quoted above in Surah 2:136 Says WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION..... SO WHAT IS GIVEN TO US AND GIVEN TO THEM (Abraham ,Moses and Jesus) IS BOTH PRESERVED.....

Meaning the Muslim View that the Quran had to be preserved also has to have the Preservation that the books of Abraham, Jesus and Moses are true and preserved as well.. Surah 21:48 of the Quran explicitly states that Moses Got the Zikr (ذِكْر) ..... Well Moses Getting the Zikr (ذِكْر) isn't actually The quran.... But the Torah (Old testament) ....

AND in Surah 21:105 of the Quran "
And We have already written in the Psalms after the Reminder (Zikr(ذِكْر)) that 'the land shall be inherited by My righteous servants.'" (Surah 21:105)
NOTICE how the quran admits that the book of Psalms of the Old testament were written After the Zikr(ذِكْر) . SO LOGICALLY FOLLOWING .... THIS ZIKR(ذِكْر) CANNOT BE THE QURAN .

In fact the Quran In Surah 21:48 directly states that Moses Got the Zikr(ذِكْر)
"And We had already given Moses and Aaron the criterion, and a light and a Reminder (Zikr) for the righteous." Surah 21:48


And Surah 21:7 Literally says Muhammad TO verify his revelations by asking the Jews and Christians πŸ˜‚
"And We sent not before you [Muhammad], except men to whom We revealed. So ask the People of the Reminder (Zikr(ذِكْر)) if you do not know."


SO, the Old Testament and New Testament is PRESERVED. ... and Proven True since according to the quran (See belowπŸ‘‡)

now go to Chapter 2 verse 285...
The Messenger ΛΉfirmlyΛΊ believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord, and so do the believers. They ΛΉallΛΊ believe in Allah, His angels, *His Books*, and His messengers. ΛΉThey proclaim,ΛΊ β€œWe make no distinction between any of His messengers.” And they say, β€œWe hear and obey. ΛΉWe seekΛΊ Your forgiveness, our Lord! And to You ΛΉaloneΛΊ is the final return.
Notice... They Beleive in Allah's BOOKS.. books is plural😁 . And Quran Chapter 2 Verse 285 says that WE MAKE NO DISTINCTION ....... BETWEEN ANY OF HIS MESSENGERS ..... (when you Muslims tell me that the books of Abraham , Moses and Jesus are Corrupt then you are making a distinction Which ultimately proves your quran False!)

BUT The quran says that true beleivers Beleive in those Books of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and lastly Muhammad For Muslims.

The Quran explicitly affirms that the Torah (Old Testament) and the Injil (Gospel/New Testament) are revelations from God:

β€’ β€œIndeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light.” (Surah 5:44)

β€’ β€œAnd We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah. And We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light.” (Surah 5:46)

AND Surah 10:94
"If you [Muhammad] doubt what We have revealed to you, then ask those who've been reading the Book before you." (Surah 10:94)

BASICALLY Muhammad relies on the Jews and Christian's Books to Prove his False Religion......

Surah 5:48: "And We have sent down to you the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Muhaymin (superce and witness) over it (old Scriptures)."
This verse states that the Quran confirms the previous scriptures and is a witness over them. This also means that the Quran guarantees the preservation of the previous scriptures. THEREFORE THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT IS TRUE... BIBLE IS TRUE .

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