Windows 11; continued worsening quality and experience, at what cost?
I've been an avid Windows user for decades -- I grew up with the OS, learned its ins and outs, stressed it to its limits, and even spotted the occasional harmless bug here and there.
Most of these bugs were harmless, like the fact that in some versions the volume slider in the notification area was off by 1 from the control panel Sound applet, but only when below 50 (so one of the sliders would mute at 1, the other at 0).
This attention of detail was something that I grew to appreciate, as finding the occasional bug in the OS itself was rare but always interesting as a result of how well thought-out and properly tested and vetted everything was. It also taught me on what to focus on in software development, with an attention to detail _and_ the overall user experience (and always support alternate methods of achieving the same thing, to teach users seamlessly as part of the application).
But over the years I've seen a noticeable degradation of quality across the operating system, to the point where I'm asking if there's no one awake at the wheel at Microsoft.
Let's take the audio subsystem as an example. The degradation of quality is pretty much everywhere, of this one in particular is one of the more noticeable ones that people might not even realize that it used to be different. This is a short timeline of events from the top of my head to get an idea of what I mean:
* Back in 2021 Windows received the "Unified audio endpoint" update for Bluetooth devices. This meant that instead of different audio devices for a Bluetooth headset that supported a high quality output device and a low quality/low latency output device, you were now not given a choice, and Windows would automatically switch to the low quality/low latency output device **every time the microphone was activated**.
* If you've ever used a BT headset in Windows over the last few years and noticed how the audio quality drops when the microphone is activated, this is why. Before this update you could often use the high quality output device with the microphone -- giving you high quality sound while in meetings and calls -- but no more after this update was released.
* Disabling this behavior is still not easily accessible to users four years later in 2025, and Microsoft have never (as far as I am aware) publicly commented upon how their new vaunted feature actually reduced the audio quality in many use cases. This feature is why I still today cannot stand using a Bluetooth headset on Windows at work -- the experience is utter shite compared to using alternate connectivity methods.
* In the early lifetime of Windows 11, Microsoft had added a surround sound/channel layout (Stereo, 5.1, 7.1, etc) setting to the Sound section of the Settings app. You know, the stuff that's already available in the Sounds control panel applet since decades ago. Should be simple, right? However those of us who used it quickly realized that **it didn't even work** and more often than not just caused your surround sound system to output noisy garbage every time a sound was played. If you look in the Settings app, that specific option no longer remains and haven't for years now -- Microsoft seemingly disabled it once they realized how broken it was. You have since been pushed back into the legacy Sound control panel applet to adjust something simple as the speaker layout of your system.
* After last month's update, it soon became obvious that they once again had screwed around with the sound system to a ridiculous degree -- now with the actual channel layouts themselves. I use a 5.1 surround sound system that's connected over HDMI. This is an extremely basic setup that have worked fine for decades at this point. Yet however even something this basic occasionally broke after the last update, where the channel setup would be completely screwed up, to the point where my rear speakers would act as the front speakers, my front left + right speakers act as the center and subwoofer, and none of my speakers would
I've been an avid Windows user for decades -- I grew up with the OS, learned its ins and outs, stressed it to its limits, and even spotted the occasional harmless bug here and there.
Most of these bugs were harmless, like the fact that in some versions the volume slider in the notification area was off by 1 from the control panel Sound applet, but only when below 50 (so one of the sliders would mute at 1, the other at 0).
This attention of detail was something that I grew to appreciate, as finding the occasional bug in the OS itself was rare but always interesting as a result of how well thought-out and properly tested and vetted everything was. It also taught me on what to focus on in software development, with an attention to detail _and_ the overall user experience (and always support alternate methods of achieving the same thing, to teach users seamlessly as part of the application).
But over the years I've seen a noticeable degradation of quality across the operating system, to the point where I'm asking if there's no one awake at the wheel at Microsoft.
Let's take the audio subsystem as an example. The degradation of quality is pretty much everywhere, of this one in particular is one of the more noticeable ones that people might not even realize that it used to be different. This is a short timeline of events from the top of my head to get an idea of what I mean:
* Back in 2021 Windows received the "Unified audio endpoint" update for Bluetooth devices. This meant that instead of different audio devices for a Bluetooth headset that supported a high quality output device and a low quality/low latency output device, you were now not given a choice, and Windows would automatically switch to the low quality/low latency output device **every time the microphone was activated**.
* If you've ever used a BT headset in Windows over the last few years and noticed how the audio quality drops when the microphone is activated, this is why. Before this update you could often use the high quality output device with the microphone -- giving you high quality sound while in meetings and calls -- but no more after this update was released.
* Disabling this behavior is still not easily accessible to users four years later in 2025, and Microsoft have never (as far as I am aware) publicly commented upon how their new vaunted feature actually reduced the audio quality in many use cases. This feature is why I still today cannot stand using a Bluetooth headset on Windows at work -- the experience is utter shite compared to using alternate connectivity methods.
* In the early lifetime of Windows 11, Microsoft had added a surround sound/channel layout (Stereo, 5.1, 7.1, etc) setting to the Sound section of the Settings app. You know, the stuff that's already available in the Sounds control panel applet since decades ago. Should be simple, right? However those of us who used it quickly realized that **it didn't even work** and more often than not just caused your surround sound system to output noisy garbage every time a sound was played. If you look in the Settings app, that specific option no longer remains and haven't for years now -- Microsoft seemingly disabled it once they realized how broken it was. You have since been pushed back into the legacy Sound control panel applet to adjust something simple as the speaker layout of your system.
* After last month's update, it soon became obvious that they once again had screwed around with the sound system to a ridiculous degree -- now with the actual channel layouts themselves. I use a 5.1 surround sound system that's connected over HDMI. This is an extremely basic setup that have worked fine for decades at this point. Yet however even something this basic occasionally broke after the last update, where the channel setup would be completely screwed up, to the point where my rear speakers would act as the front speakers, my front left + right speakers act as the center and subwoofer, and none of my speakers would
act as the rear speakers... And trying to change the channel setup would once again screw some of them up, and end up with none of the speakers hooked up to the front left + right channels (you know, the two most important channels out of all of them)...
* Having just updated to this month's update, I am once again stupified by what I'm seeing, where _no audio at all_ was being played despite the audio device being hooked up, and regardless of what channel layout I tried using. So we're literally went from a completely working sound subsystem 2 months ago to one that doesn't produce any audio at all today... How is this possible?! Did an AI chatbot write this code, and someone went "well, it doesn't produce any errors, so let's ship it" ?!
And all of this brings me to what's so insane to me -- *is nobody actually testing these kinds of changes?!* What is Microsoft's developers doing?! What is the Insider Program doing?! **Why the hell are you using people _in the stable public branch_ as guinea pigs?!**
Or I guess none of this matters because the frontend of Windows looks sleek, and the new notifications/slide-outs, account/services overviews, reminders etc increases your KPIs on user/subscription conversion/retention, increasing the overall revenue generated from Windows 11 in the short while, right? *Right?!*
It's honestly insane and baffling. Windows have shaped my life as my proficiency in it was pushed me to get a job in IT, but holy crap I can barely stand it nowadays due to this glaring degradation of quality across the board. Whenever people come to me for advice on new laptops to get, I point them towards macOS instead. Whenever I personally contemplate what laptop to get next as my work laptop, I am also looking more and more on the macOS laptops. I'd rather try something new and force myself to re-learn how to use a different keyboard layout than experiencing the continued degradation of quality on a monthly basis that is Windows today.
Hence the opening question -- what is the long-term cost of this degradation of quality? And what are the teachings that today's newcomers will take from the OS when half of it still feels like a work-in-progress or as half-assed solutions or implementations that are in dire need of some QoL improvements and _actual user studies_?
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*I still can't get over the fact that Windows 11 doesn't even manage to have a built-in way of displaying the second of the time without negatively impacting your power or performance -- something Windows XP (maybe even 2000?) managed to do without issues.*
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* Having just updated to this month's update, I am once again stupified by what I'm seeing, where _no audio at all_ was being played despite the audio device being hooked up, and regardless of what channel layout I tried using. So we're literally went from a completely working sound subsystem 2 months ago to one that doesn't produce any audio at all today... How is this possible?! Did an AI chatbot write this code, and someone went "well, it doesn't produce any errors, so let's ship it" ?!
And all of this brings me to what's so insane to me -- *is nobody actually testing these kinds of changes?!* What is Microsoft's developers doing?! What is the Insider Program doing?! **Why the hell are you using people _in the stable public branch_ as guinea pigs?!**
Or I guess none of this matters because the frontend of Windows looks sleek, and the new notifications/slide-outs, account/services overviews, reminders etc increases your KPIs on user/subscription conversion/retention, increasing the overall revenue generated from Windows 11 in the short while, right? *Right?!*
It's honestly insane and baffling. Windows have shaped my life as my proficiency in it was pushed me to get a job in IT, but holy crap I can barely stand it nowadays due to this glaring degradation of quality across the board. Whenever people come to me for advice on new laptops to get, I point them towards macOS instead. Whenever I personally contemplate what laptop to get next as my work laptop, I am also looking more and more on the macOS laptops. I'd rather try something new and force myself to re-learn how to use a different keyboard layout than experiencing the continued degradation of quality on a monthly basis that is Windows today.
Hence the opening question -- what is the long-term cost of this degradation of quality? And what are the teachings that today's newcomers will take from the OS when half of it still feels like a work-in-progress or as half-assed solutions or implementations that are in dire need of some QoL improvements and _actual user studies_?
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*I still can't get over the fact that Windows 11 doesn't even manage to have a built-in way of displaying the second of the time without negatively impacting your power or performance -- something Windows XP (maybe even 2000?) managed to do without issues.*
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Way to display small decorative pictures onto desktop?
Basically I just want to display a few photos about my desktop decoratively, not the background but images that will sit on top like shortcut icons do, just display an image. (If you must know specifically because I thought having a "rudimentary desktop pet" would be funny, transparent png that only sits there next to a water bowl or something.)
Is there a way about doing this? An app, widget, ect? I've tried looking into the topic myself but I'm unsure how to phrase it for search engines to find this specific thing I'm looking for and not info on changing backgrounds.
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Basically I just want to display a few photos about my desktop decoratively, not the background but images that will sit on top like shortcut icons do, just display an image. (If you must know specifically because I thought having a "rudimentary desktop pet" would be funny, transparent png that only sits there next to a water bowl or something.)
Is there a way about doing this? An app, widget, ect? I've tried looking into the topic myself but I'm unsure how to phrase it for search engines to find this specific thing I'm looking for and not info on changing backgrounds.
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Releasing Windows 10 Build 19045.6029 to the Release Preview Channel
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Releasing Windows 10 Build 19045.6029 to the Release Preview Channel
Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 10 22H2 Build 19045.6029 (KB5061087) to the Release Preview Channel for Insiders who are on Windows 10, version 22H2. This update includes the following features and improvement
Releasing Windows 11 Build 22631.5545 to the Release Preview Channel
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[UPDATE 6/19] We are releasing Build 22631.5548 (KB5060826) today which is a small update that addresses some issues with some of the new features and improvements gradually rolling out with this release. Hello Wi
Copilot Vision on Windows with Highlights now available in US
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I just found out that W11 still uses a similar if not the same, screen saver from the XP days.
They probably used similar looking screen savers since the 90s, my brain just remembers seeing them for the first time with XP. I was surpirsed that they even used the same CRT monitor to show off what they look like, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Sadly they don't have the 3D pipes, but I found out you can download it from this website https://www.screensaversplanet.com/screensavers/3d-pipes-494/, which was recommended by a user on the Microsoft forum https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/customizing-screen-saver/b18cf293-f3ad-46fb-9897-007d25181605.
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They probably used similar looking screen savers since the 90s, my brain just remembers seeing them for the first time with XP. I was surpirsed that they even used the same CRT monitor to show off what they look like, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Sadly they don't have the 3D pipes, but I found out you can download it from this website https://www.screensaversplanet.com/screensavers/3d-pipes-494/, which was recommended by a user on the Microsoft forum https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/customizing-screen-saver/b18cf293-f3ad-46fb-9897-007d25181605.
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Typically how long for a build to go from Beta Channel to general release?
A recent update broke the win+ctrl+number keys shortcuts which I use heavily.
The pain is real.
Luckily a fix is in the pipeline: https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2025/05/05/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-26120-3950-beta-channel/
How long does a build typically take to go from the Beta Channel to general release?
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A recent update broke the win+ctrl+number keys shortcuts which I use heavily.
The pain is real.
Luckily a fix is in the pipeline: https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2025/05/05/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-26120-3950-beta-channel/
How long does a build typically take to go from the Beta Channel to general release?
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Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26200.5651 (Dev Channel)
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Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26120.4441 (Beta Channel)
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How do I get Microsoft Cortana on Windows 11 WITHOUT MS-Store
Just one more step and my windows 11 will look like windows 10
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Noticed this little x button after the recent update, what does it do?
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