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10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 2 - Giornata mondiale (contro) a favore delle peni di morti

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

So again is NOT against human rights and cruel, BECAUSE DEATH PENALTY IS ASSISTED SUICIDE!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceNOW/60
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathExecutions/49
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/87

And about human right ... FIRST START TO RESPECT SUCH HUMAN RIGHT FOR SERIOUS IMPORTANT THINGS!
https://www.tgoop.com/EthicalDilemmaHumanRights/186
https://www.tgoop.com/MissionPlaneta/92
https://www.tgoop.com/InPrisonNOW/7
https://www.tgoop.com/GovernmentInPrison
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/176
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/175

3. Non è stato mai dimostrato il suo valore deterrente
We already wrote 1000x that deterrent IS NOT the ONLY goal and this is BULLSHIT! or better, what Amnesty and other are showing
...
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/364
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/324
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/270
https://www.tgoop.com/StuproFatti/388
https://www.tgoop.com/AntoniaBarra/149
https://www.tgoop.com/RecidivismFacts
https://www.tgoop.com/ParoleFacts
etc.

A volte la persona violenta soffre di gravi disturbi mentali o presenta comunque una certa instabilità psicologica.
NO DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!! doesn't matter with or without mental issues!!!
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/176
Otherwise every idiot could say "i'm not mental ok" ... and psychologists believe such shit too!
https://www.tgoop.com/CrimeExamples/137

La chiave della deterrenza risiede nell’aumentare le probabilità che chi commette un reato sia arrestato e condannato.
🤦‍♂️

a) when rape is just reported is SMALL AMOUNT to police!
https://www.tgoop.com/RecidivismFacts/166
https://www.tgoop.com/RecidivismFacts/193

b) when the goal is not just to put people in prison, BUT TO KEEP CRIMINALS that cannot be saved anymore in prison!
https://www.tgoop.com/ParoleFacts/75

c) you talk always just about homicide, BUT IS NOT JUST ABOUT KILLING
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/310

and NEVER FORGET SUICIDE! no matter if done by prisoners, girls or other!
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/81
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 3 - Giornata mondiale (contro) a favore delle peni di morti

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

So again, NEVER FORGET SUICIDE! no matter if done by prisoners, girls or other!
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/81
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/85

Nessuno studio ha mai dimostrato che la pena di morte sia un deterrente più efficace di altre punizioni.
a) bullshit! because this cannot be showed by scientific studies!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/102

b) this is not just related to homicides! every homicide is different and is related to many other factors!!!
https://www.tgoop.com/JohnBessler/13
to
https://www.tgoop.com/JohnBessler/74

c) Just bullshit, because even if not a study, there are countries, where HOMICIDES DECREASED while death penalty was active!
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/133
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/116

does this mean it's related to death penalty? NOPE! Who matter ... goal is not just that! and crimes can increase or decrease based on other things! LIKE POVERTY!!!!!!!

4. Uno Stato che uccide compie un omicidio premeditato
🤣 do we want to talk about how our state is asking people to do suicide, because there is no euthanasia, abortion, and other similar rights???!
https://www.tgoop.com/NeverForgetTelegram/29
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel/87
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel/88

What about death penalty to animals and wolves?
https://www.tgoop.com/WolfRights/98
https://www.tgoop.com/AnimalAbuseDeathSentence/39

What about the indifference against homeless / poor people?
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/175

What about crimes behind suicide that get not sentenced???
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/165
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/168
https://www.tgoop.com/SuicideRape/4

What about all other crimes done by our governments?
https://www.tgoop.com/InPrisonNOW/7
https://www.tgoop.com/WorldWar3Facts/26

Why always KEEPING EYES CLOSED AMNESTY???!
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/93
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/95
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/116

REMEMBER THAT KEEPING EYES CLOSED IS A CRIME!
https://www.tgoop.com/IgnoringCrimes
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 4 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

REMEMBER THAT KEEPING EYES CLOSED IS A CRIME!
https://www.tgoop.com/IgnoringCrimes

And promoting bullshit should be a crime too!
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/144

This means even YOUR BULLSHIT!
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyFacts
https://www.tgoop.com/addlist/mhZg0973N14wMjMx

and your bullshit to UN!
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyBullshit/723
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/87
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/78
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/116
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyIgnorance/217

Alcuni studi hanno non solo dimostrato come il tasso di omicidi sia più alto negli Stati che applicano la pena di morte rispetto a quelli dove questa pratica è stata abolita, ma anche come questo aumenti rapidamente dopo le esecuzioni
Yes, SURE YOUR PROPAGANDA STUDIES WITH 0 SCIENCE!
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/32
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/328
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/346
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/133
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/32

Exactly like Carolyn Hoyle
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/263
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/285
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyMafia

which is still 1000x better than Amnesty ...
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyIgnorance/217

5. È sinonimo di discriminazione e repressione
Read about discrimination
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/375
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/180
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/218

La pena di morte è usata in modo sproporzionato contro le persone più svantaggiate.
https://www.tgoop.com/MissionPlaneta/92

È usata nei confronti di persone affette da disturbi mentali e minorenni all’epoca del reato.
to teens to mental issues to women! 🙅‍♂️ anatomical changes!
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/176

Nelle mani di regimi autoritari, la pena capitale è uno strumento di minaccia e repressione che riduce al silenzio gli oppositori politici.
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathSentences
plus bullshit, because this is the case of Asia etc. NOT EVERYTIME!

Criminal behind governments @InPrisonNOW!
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 5 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

Non da necessariamente conforto ai familiari della vittima
Un’esecuzione non può ridare vita alla vittima né cancellare per sempre la sofferenza provata dalla sua famiglia.

a) We already said that, death penalty should NOT be done to make victims happy!
https://www.tgoop.com/BreivikFacts/7
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/122

b) OBVIOUSLY A DEATH PENALTY WILL NOT FIX THE TRAUMA ISSUE!!!
https://www.tgoop.com/TraumaTelegram
even cannot reduce girls doing suicide after rape!
https://www.tgoop.com/SuicideRape

BUT CAN REDUCE TRAUMA AND SUICIDE OF OTHER GIRLS! if such criminals return to society, raping girls / doing terrorism / etc.
https://www.tgoop.com/PrisonBreakFacts

So again FEELING OF FAMILIES IS NOT IMPORTANT! because this is not neutral at all! Otherwise is like Dahmer father ...
https://www.tgoop.com/EducateYourKids/4
https://www.tgoop.com/CannibalTelegram/33
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/101

It's only about amount / type and deep of the crimes! Only about that!

So yes, we agree in part with Amnesty about this point!

Un errore giudiziario può uccidere un innocente
Errors SHOULD NOT HAPPEN!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/146

and are not accepted FOR THE SUCH OVERPAID JOBS! So first, let we reduce the wage of such dudes once at all!
https://www.tgoop.com/BreivikParole/121

Plus don't remember errors by doctors / nurses ...
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathExecutions/37
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathExecutions/15
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel/65

and the fact that such doctors and nurses apply death sentences with 💩! like if this is their goal!
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathExecutions/49
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathExecutions/48
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/87

Negli USA, sono più di 130 le persone che sono state rilasciate dal braccio della morte a seguito di sviluppi che ne hanno dimostrato l'innocenza dopo la chiusura del processo.
🇺🇸 applied in the past sentences with 💩!
https://www.tgoop.com/BenShapiroBullshit/210
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 6 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

🇺🇸 applied in the past sentences with 💩!
https://www.tgoop.com/BenShapiroBullshit/210
https://www.tgoop.com/BlackHumanRights

In Arabia Saudita sono frequenti i processi iniqui, spesso svolti in una lingua sconosciuta all’imputato. In Cina e in Iran, le confessioni sono spesso estorte sotto tortura.
Many sentences in such states are applied with shit and shit methods!
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathSentences
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathExecutionMethod
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/175

You cannot consider such things as "general"!

So in conclusion, NOPE, WE DON'T AGREE! because you can apply sentences WITHOUT ERRORS! It's just about WE NEED TO CHANGE! We need to do less shit! and more with brain! This doesn't mean is not possible!

Meanwhile this government decision is not just about death penalty! EVEN HOW PEOPLE CONSIDER HOMELESS CAN BE CONSIDERED A GREAT DISCRIMINATION!
https://www.tgoop.com/FinanceFactsTelegram/844

what about "who deserve a study place"? Again based on BULLSHIT and discrimination!
https://www.tgoop.com/StudentRightsTelegram

Where people with mother languages get favoured, JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN READ TEXTES FASTER! but this doesn't mean they are better or smarter or whatever!

So like Trump is saying
https://www.tgoop.com/GovernmentInPrison/38
GOVERMENTS ARE NOT INNOCENT, even not related to death penalty, SINCE WE HAVE NO DEATH PENALTY, but 🇪🇺 is still FULL OF DISCRIMINATION!
https://www.tgoop.com/EuropeFacts/37
https://www.tgoop.com/EuropeFacts/41

8. Infligge sofferenza ai familiari dei condannati

and 🙅‍♂️, PLUS AGAIN WHAT FAMILIES THINK IS NOT IMPORTANT AT ALL!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/378
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/101
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/179

Such criminal can do suicide! and the families would still see another death ...
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyIgnorance/198
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyIgnorance/182
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyIgnorance/205
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyIgnorance/209
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 7 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

Obviously the trauma of families (victim / criminal) are important, because parents are not the kid for example!
https://www.tgoop.com/TraumaTelegram
https://www.tgoop.com/SuicideRape

but we mean that families have NO DECISION on the sentence! We still need to consider suicides etc. part of the sentence
https://www.tgoop.com/SuicideRape/4
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/42
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/165
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/168
https://www.tgoop.com/SuicideRape/155

Such dude can ask assisted suicide (real suicide, not death penalty, which is another suicide ...) "and again same trauma" (especially if we have a family fighting against assisted suicide ...)
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyIgnorance/163

Related posts
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/43
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/18

So we DON'T SUPPORT FAMILIES SEEING THEIR KIDS AS INNOCENT! when in reality such kid is a terrorist or serious criminal!
https://www.tgoop.com/BreivikBullshit/11

and asking for parole or whatever for such kids ...

Yes we know is not easy to see your kid as a terrorist! BUT IT'S A TERRORIST! Punto e basta! If you want to accept that or not!

Let we remember that criminals can even generate suicide in their families
https://www.tgoop.com/TerrorDeutschland/262

BUT OBVIOUSLY AMNESTY IS NOT TALKING ABOUT SUCH THINGS AGAIN, since suicide is simply a no sense tabu topic in our society! Which is just a shame!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

and there is much more than just death penalty! because again death penalty cannot fix all problems!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/134
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/378

Provano lo stesso atroce senso di perdita avvertito dai familiari, dagli amici e dai conoscenti della vittima di un omicidio.
Just a question Amnesty, always related to ethical dilemma, which is better:

a) trauma of the family of a raper / terrorist / cannibal, knowing such dude cannot do crimes anymore

b) see next post
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 8 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

Just a question Amnesty, always related to ethical dilemma, which is better:

a) trauma of the family of a raper / terrorist / cannibal, knowing such dude cannot do crimes anymore

b) trauma of future families, girls raped thinking and maybe doing suicide???!

Without considering the trauma of the victims ...

WE CLEARLY SAY A! and people with brain would say A!
https://www.tgoop.com/RapeDeathPenalty/24
because inside some families even support death penalty for their kids! EXACTLY LIKE OUR MOTHERS ARE DOING TOO! They are ready to see us die, if we are Breivik 2.0!
https://www.tgoop.com/DefenceTelegram/1380

By knowing that even if your kid is a terrorist, it's still your kid ... and dying is NOT beautiful (how you die, not the fact that you need to die, because EVERYONE WILL DIE!, it's only about how?), but here we go again with the same ethical dilemma question, better

a) getting a call with "your kid did suicide in prison"

b) knowing your kid will get executed with death penalty aka assisted suicide on day xxx

c) your kid in prison has a serious disease with huge pain but the prison is refusing assisted suicide

d) your kid wish assisted suicide, because he has a life sentence, but there is no option ...

e) ...

Just open your mind and reflect about that once at all ... instead of just talking about the criminal trauma or traumas related to their families, but we ignore all other traumas, again EVEN when a guard get killed by a prisoner!
https://www.tgoop.com/PrisonBreakFacts/94
https://www.tgoop.com/PrisonBreakFacts/107

9. Nega qualsiasi possibilità di riabilitazione
Like said, rehabilitation is OK for some prisoners and NOT OK FOR OTHER!

People that don't deserve rehabilitation:
- serial killer and right wing terrorists! Such people CANNOT BE RECOVERED ANYMORE! even if they say "sorry, i'm fine!" ... yes, believe such bullshit!
https://www.tgoop.com/CrimeExamples/117
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 9 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

People that don't deserve rehabilitation:
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/381

After that, we would say mass shooter > child rape > rape / stealing fetus / acid attack > eco / nature terrorists - animal cruelty

More on the left, like mass shooter, less probability you have to recover such dudes = such crimes should get death penalty instead of life sentence

Related
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/321
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/261
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/89
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/37
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/43
https://www.tgoop.com/CrimeExamples/117
etc.

Without forgetting that it's important to have HIGH QUALITY PROOFS!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/148

Seems like those saying "no assisted suicide, because we have a phone call or palliative care" NOPE! It's not the same thing! You cannot think to fix all issues with palliative care, if you give a shit to the story behind those who wish assisted suicide ...

Again, rehabilitation for Kate / Sucre, drug dealers, car accidents and similar soft crimes is OK!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/179
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/180

🙅‍♂️ rehabilitation for right wing hate terrorism, cannibal, etc.

Canadian serial killer 'cannibal' who murdered at least 26 women and fed them to his pigs is now eligible to apply for PAROLE, outraging stricken relatives of his victims? 🙅‍♂️ parole! https://perma.cc/M6LH-A35V

Even if such cannibal is really 100% clean, the risk is bigger than saying "you are fine"!
https://www.tgoop.com/CannibalTelegram/32

But what about Nicolas Claux?

Is Nicolas a serial killer? Do you really know what Nicolas is doing? What about Nicolas in 10 years? Are all people like Nicolas? etc.

Do we need to give parole just because of Nicolas? NOPE!
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 10 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

O simplemente hurtando, como en el caso del francés Nicolas Claux, sentenciado en 1994, quien se desempeñaba como empleado en el hospital parisino de St. Joseph, donde tenía acceso a los cadáveres, a los que profanaba para posteriormente consumar el acto antropofágico en su hogar.

Or simply stealing, as in the case of the Frenchman Nicolas Claux, sentenced in 1994, who worked as an employee at the Parisian hospital of St. Joseph, where he had access to the corpses, which he desecrated and later carried out the anthropophagic act in his home.

What is still interesting, is the fact that Nicolas is saying "finding a job is shit!, so i started with ..." and this aspect should never get forgot by Amnesty, because in this case he found an alternative way ... WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER PEOPLE?

That get refused after prison and maybe restart their criminal lifestyle ...

Remember is not like being innocent and after release you are a millionaire ...
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathSentences/178

So better to keep in prison for life / kill an "healed criminal" or having a criminal on the streets? who can still continue to kill / rape or whatever ...

Now this is our OPINION, because no scientific study can answer such questions!, we find much better the first option, even if we consider the amount of death people ... YES, BECAUSE IT'S EVEN ABOUT THAT!
https://www.tgoop.com/EthicalDilemmaHumanRights/20
but no one is considering all indirect victims, like it happened with Prison Break Tv Show ...
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel/58

We are not talking about Saw, where the dude with a stupid math formula selected who should get help or not, and in this case Jigsaw got refused ...! In this case Jigsaw was an innocent (if he was not a killer ...). We are talking about criminals!

See next post
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 11 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

So remember that there is no scientific answer to that (related if a criminals will do a crime again or not ...), because every person is different, so even what Amnesty is saying is just based on OPINIONS! but the difference between us and Amnesty?

Amnesty is just checking that from the victim perspective! We from both!
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/77
and they don't consider ethical dilemma at all!
https://www.tgoop.com/EthicalDilemmaHumanRights/20
https://www.tgoop.com/EthicalDilemmaHumanRights/181

which means considering all possible death and traumas, in the past and in the future!

Again, the situation of Jigsaw refused with a stupid math formula is DIFFERENT than the choice in front of serious criminals ...
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/383
WITH 100% PROOF! because otherwise is life sentence!

So yes, there are criminals that after prison will not redo crimes too. There are probably even criminals, not going to prison, that will stop to do crimes without any rehabilitation ...

This doesn't change the fact, that we have the other side too. Such side can generate other deaths (guards, prisoners, other victims, etc.).

Yes, we need to consider even ethical dilemma related to "life sentence for a serial killer" = money for him = giving a shit to homeless / poor people = death penalty to homeless / poor people (because they die for poverty or because they do suicide due to be poor ...)
https://www.tgoop.com/EthicalDilemmaHumanRights/137
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathSentences/178
https://www.tgoop.com/TerrorDeutschland/251

Reason why death penalty with rape (not child rape) or ☪️ terrorism is more complex ... and generally we just support death sentences with right wing!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/22
https://www.tgoop.com/TerrorDeutschland/251
to
https://www.tgoop.com/TerrorDeutschland/254
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 12 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

Again, rape is complex! and totally different compared to serial killer and right wing terrorism
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/384

We support death penalty especially for
a) child rape
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceNOW/58
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/286

b) multiple rape / serial killer rapers / terroristic rapers
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceNOW/64
https://www.tgoop.com/RapeDeathSentence/23

c) multiple crimes done with rape
https://www.tgoop.com/CrimeExamples/44
https://www.tgoop.com/RapeDeathSentence/18

this means, more serious crimes are you doing, more probability you have to get a death penalty. Just a quick example?

cannibal + serial killer + rape + acid attack + killing the victims would be 5 death penalties for us!, which means such dude deserve for sure death penalty! by getting a death penalty

Even if "killing a victim" is NOT a reason of death penalty! in combination with rape yes!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/293

If such dude is filming and sharing that, well again 2x death penalties, if combined with the other crimes! even if filming is not a death penalty per default!
https://www.tgoop.com/CrimeExamples/44

In the previous example
https://www.tgoop.com/RapeDeathPenalty/17
the reason is because he used acid! which is death penalty per default for us!

Death penalty to all type of rape where we have 100% proof? Do we need to be honest? For us the answer would be YES, because rape is the worst crime ever!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/129

but we know how people against death penalty think, means "if 700 people rape girls just in a country, we need to apply 700 death penalties each year just for that" or similar things ...

Our answer to make both sides happy? Death penalty to the group a, b, c and in case of "normal single rape" at least 20 years! better a life sentence WITHOUT PAROLE! or in case parole only when you are 👨‍🦳 ...
https://www.tgoop.com/CrimeExamples/44
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Part 13 - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

Related to the previous rape post
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/385

Remember: more life sentences you are doing = "more wasted money" = too many prisoners = other criminals don't go in prison because they are already full ... SO IT'S COMPLEX

Life sentence = less money for homeless = less money for new prisons ....
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/384
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/376
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/381
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/380

Killing a person because "it costs us less" is the stuff of psychopaths answer
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/360
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/363

Another reason why we support assisted suicide!
https://www.tgoop.com/PrisonFacts/1232

Not just because is an human right for not prisoners ...
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel/11
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel/87
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel/88

but even an human right for prisoners!!!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel/43

So if a prisoner wish that, he should get this option after 10-20 years! Dying with dignity in prison too, instead of selfmade suicide!
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/81
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/85
but only if wished! NO FORCED SUICIDE!!!

In this way "we fix in part too many prisoners", "expensive", "recidivism / escape / etc. risk", near giving the prisoner human rights!

Now back to Amnesty one to one after this excursus ... So rehabilitation just for some prisoners NOT ALL! even knowing that some dudes maybe never do the crime again, like we wrote from
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/381

10. Non rispetta i valori di tutta l’umanità.
We already answered that in point 1)
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

Conclusion:

We agree

a) (in part) about traumas BUT don't forget all traumas!!!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/379

b) dying is shit, especially HOW!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/381

Death penalty = assisted suicide
10 motivi per dire NO alla pena di morte - One to one with Amnesty Italia Final part - World day (against) pro death penalty

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

So again Death penalty = assisted suicide
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/386
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathExecutions/48
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathExecutions/49
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda/87

if there is no Amnesty / Europe mafia behind that!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceBullshit/1546
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel/57
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel/45

and ignorance about such tabu topics ...
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyFacts
https://www.tgoop.com/addlist/mhZg0973N14wMjMx

We know that:

a) currently death penalty are done with shit too! This need to be changed!
https://www.tgoop.com/BenShapiroBullshit/210
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/285
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/221

How? Near proper sentence with brain, for example with
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/169
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/143

b) too many prisoners is a problem too!
https://www.tgoop.com/IsraelWarWomenRights/1153
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/386

c) yes, we put in prison for life or apply death penalty to criminals that maybe never do the same crime again, even if they get released, like we said with Breivik
https://www.tgoop.com/PrisonBreakFacts/112

BUT again PRIORITY IS SAFETY OF OUR SOCIETY! exactly like 🇨🇭 laws is saying too! and in such case HUMAN RIGHTS OF POPULATION > HUMAN RIGHTS CRIMINAL!
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyIgnorance/221

otherwise we could release ALL PEOPLE from prisons ... NO ONE will know if such dude will redo the same crimes or not! Even not such bullshit psychologists!
https://www.tgoop.com/CrimeExamples/137

Even if they don't go in prison again, DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT! since not all crimes have a criminal ... or are reported to the police!
https://www.tgoop.com/RecidivismFacts/166
https://www.tgoop.com/RecidivismFacts/193

We do that for other things too ... Just think about COVID, safety measures in airports (when in reality MOST PEOPLE are NOT criminal!), etc. Safety first!

Related
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/179
Here a summary of 10 reasons to abolish the death penalty in English related to what we have done previously with Amnesty Italy by answering in English

🙅‍♂️ 1 – the death penalty violates the right to life.
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374

🙅‍♂️ 2 – the death penalty is a cruel and inhuman death.
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/375
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyCruel
https://www.tgoop.com/JohnBessler
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyMafia
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathExecutions

🙅‍♂️ 3 – the death penalty has no dissuasive effect.
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/375
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/376
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyFacts
https://www.tgoop.com/addlist/mhZg0973N14wMjMx

🙅‍♂️ 4 – the death penalty is premeditated murder, demeans the state and makes society more violent.
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/376
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/377

🙅‍♂️ 5 – the death penalty is discriminatory in its application.
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/377
https://www.tgoop.com/GovernmentInPrison
https://www.tgoop.com/InPrisonNOW
https://www.tgoop.com/IgnoringCrimes
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/378
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/379

🙅‍♂️ 6 – the death penalty denies the capacity of people to mend their ways and become a better
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/381
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/382
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/383
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/384
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/385
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/386

🙅‍♂️ 7 – the death penalty cannot provide social stability nor bring peace to the victims.
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/378

🙅‍♂️ 8 – the death penalty denies the fallibility of human institutions.
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/378
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/379

🙅‍♂️ 9 – the death penalty is a collective punishment.
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/379
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/380
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/381

🙅‍♂️ 10 – the death penalty goes against the religious and humanist values that are common to all humanity.
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/386
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374
Here a summary of 10 reasons to abolish the death penalty in English related to what we have done previously with Amnesty Italy by answering in English Part 2

Answer to point 1-10
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/388

Conclusion
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/386
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/387

Previous 1:1 with Amnesty

🇺🇸
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/16
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/23

🇫🇷🇺🇸
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/79
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/89

🇮🇹🇺🇸
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/293
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/299
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/304

https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/374
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/387

https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/39
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/40

Other 1:1
🇪🇸 🇺🇸
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/219
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/261

https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/262
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/285

🇩🇪🇺🇸
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/97
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/101

https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/122
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/148

🇮🇹🇺🇸
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/306
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/363

Fanpage a partire da
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/313

🇫🇷🇺🇸
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/15
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/75

https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/171
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/182

🇪🇺🇺🇸
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/152
to
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/164

etc.

All channels with science and facts!
https://www.tgoop.com/addlist/mhZg0973N14wMjMx
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyFacts

About homicides / recidivism
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyFake
https://www.tgoop.com/RecidivismFacts
https://www.tgoop.com/ParoleFacts
https://www.tgoop.com/BreivikParole
https://www.tgoop.com/SoSorryTelegram
https://www.tgoop.com/BreivikSyndrome
etc.

Our statement about Amnesty
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/116
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceBullshit/1546
etc.
Amnesty 🇪🇸 1 to 1 about pena de muerte / death penalty facts Part 1

Una vez que se ha abolido la pena de muerte, rara vez se restablece ...
Once the death penalty has been abolished, it is rarely reinstated.

Obviously IF THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL!
https://www.tgoop.com/JohnBessler/132
and there is even 🇪🇺 EU MAFIA!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyMafia
using 🇪🇺 council and other mafia methods to contrast that
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathPenaltyIgnorance/211
https://www.tgoop.com/EthicalDilemmaHumanRights/152
https://www.tgoop.com/EthicalDilemmaHumanRights/149

with bullshit facts
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyPropaganda
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyFacts
🖇🤡 https://www.tgoop.com/addlist/mhZg0973N14wMjMx
ℹ️ https://www.tgoop.com/JoinShareableChatFolders/16

Would be time that people DO A CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN TYPE / DEEP / REASON OF CRIMES! instead of putting all criminals in just one 🗑! which is NOT the case at all!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/293

En el año 2003, el 84 por ciento de todas las ejecuciones de las que se tuvo noticia tuvieron lugar en China, Estados Unidos, Irán y Vietnam.

In 2003, 84 percent of all reported executions took place in China, the United States, Iran and Vietnam.

Who gives a shit where they are applied! Check
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/299

Los tratados internacionales para la protección de los derechos humanos prohíben condenar a muerte a toda persona menor de 18 años en el momento de cometerse el delito.

International treaties for the protection of human rights prohibit sentencing to death anyone under 18 years of age at the time of the crime.

Yes, young people deserve death penalty, exactly like women or other, if such people are serious criminals with high recidivism!
https://www.tgoop.com/ShittyDeathSentences/135
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/176

Young people are criminal EXACTLY LIKE ADULTS! or even much worse in some cases!

See next post
Amnesty 🇪🇸 1 to 1 about pena de muerte / death penalty facts Part 2

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyOneToOne/95

Los estudios científicos realizados no han podido nunca encontrar pruebas convincentes que demuestren que la pena capital tiene mayor poder disuasorio frente a la delincuencia que otros castigos.

Scientific studies have never been able to find convincing evidence that capital punishment has a greater deterrent power against crime than other punishments

Yes, BUT EVEN THE OPPOSITE!!!!! because this cannot be showed with science!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/102

and don't forget that such things DEPENDS FROM A LOT OF FACTORS!!!
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyFake/363
to
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyFake/404

It's like saying "if we give condoms for free, there are no pregnant women anymore" which would be just BULLSHIT!

Plus is NOT just about deterrent!
https://www.tgoop.com/AnimalAbuseDeathSentence/43
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/364
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/375

"The evidence reviewed in this chapter should lead any dispassionate analyst to conclude that it is not prudent to accept the hypothesis that capital punishment, as practised in the United States, deters murder to a marginally greater extent than does the threat and application of the supposedly lesser punishment of life imprisonment"

Who wrote that?
Carolyn Hoyle! a researcher BEING PART OF THIS MAFIA WRITING BULLSHIT! like we showed previously!
https://www.tgoop.com/CarolynHoyle
but still 1000x better than Amnesty!

Let we check what she is writing "the non-experimental research to which the study of the deterrent effects of capital punishment is necessarily limited will almost certainly be unable to meet those standards of proof"

"The only scientifically and ethically acceptable conclusion from the complete body of existing social science literature on deterrence and the death penalty is that it is impossible to tell whether deterrent effects are strong or weak or whether they exist at all . . . "

See next post
Amnesty 🇪🇸 1 to 1 about pena de muerte / death penalty facts Part 3

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyOneToOne/95

"Nor is there any reason to change the judgment made in 1985 that the data ‘are not sufficiently strong to lead researchers with different prior beliefs to reach a consensus regarding the deterrent effects of capital punishment"

"Most of those who favour abolition (assuming that they are not opposed to execution under any circumstances) would demand proof that executions have a substantial marginal deterrent effect"
NOPE! WE GIVE A SHIT TO DETERRENT! Is NOT HUGE important for serious criminals! RECIDIVISM IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT!
https://www.tgoop.com/AnimalAbuseDeathSentence/43

and we know that with death penalty WE KILL RECIDIVISM 100%!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/270
https://www.tgoop.com/RecidivismFacts
https://www.tgoop.com/PrisonBreakFacts
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyIgnorance
https://www.tgoop.com/BreivikParole
https://www.tgoop.com/ParoleFacts

Do we keep in prison people that maybe will not do the same crime again? Well THIS IS PART OF THE SAFETY! and we do that with a life sentence too!

Human Rights and Safety of the population = high recidivism risk = high prison escape or whatever > Human Rights of Serious Criminals!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/387

doesn't matter if Breivik will or will not redo a terror attack! BREIVIK IS A SERIOUS RISK and many other criminals are even a serious risk!
https://www.tgoop.com/AndersBehringBreivikTelegram/768
even if there is the possibility he will never do that again! DOESN'T MATTER!

POPULATION > SERIOUS CRIMINALS!
FOREVER!

Plus the real question is deterrent of which type of crime, with which reason????! Why always just talking about deterrent!! Like we do with climate change, talking about average and saying that a baby is polluting exactly like a rich person 🤦‍♂️!
https://www.tgoop.com/ClimateChangeTelegram/67

This is NOT science and facts! This is just 💩!

No matter what, Carolyn Hoyle in this part of the book IS NOT writing bad things! It's exactly like what we are saying! See next post
Amnesty 🇪🇸 1 to 1 about pena de muerte / death penalty facts Part 4

Part 1 https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyOneToOne/95

So Carolyn Hoyle in this part of the book IS NOT writing bad things! It's exactly like what we are saying! THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR BEING PRO OR CONTRA RELATED TO THE TOPIC DETERRENT! but don't come here with the bullshit "no death penalty = less homicides!" BECAUSE THIS IS BULLSHIT!
https://www.tgoop.com/LawsTelegram/133
https://www.tgoop.com/AmnestyShit/116
🖇🤡 https://www.tgoop.com/addlist/mhZg0973N14wMjMx

and we said previously, Carolyn is not considering all point of views and sometimes is writing bullshit, but she is doing still a better job than Amnesty!
https://www.tgoop.com/CarolynHoyle

For, as Dezhbakhsh and Shepherd recognize, executions also have costs: ‘these include the harm from the death penalty’s possibly discriminatory application and the risk of executing innocent people. Policy makers must weigh the benefits and costs to determine the optimal use of the death penalty’

Read such posts
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/377
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/355

What she is writing:

First, there is the problem of sufficient data.
First, the percentage of people sentenced to death in the United States who actually are executed is minute so the data will always seem insufficient!!

Second...the executions that do occur are disproportionately centered in a few states—indeed, close to a majority in a single state—so the various effects of skewing hamper sound empirical inference-drawing.

The inference drawn is that the fear of capital punishment rather than long imprisonment will not restrain those who are apt to commit murder, because murder usually arises from an explosion of temper or loss of control, from mental illness or defective personality, or from panic when faced with imminent capture.

Why exactly JUST TALKING ABOUT MURDERS!!! IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT MURDERS!
https://www.tgoop.com/DeathSentenceFAQ/328

We find that the existing evidence for deterrence is surprisingly fragile ...

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